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I looked at the designs before reading Marjorie's notes, and my first reaction is that I agree with her about weighting the image by placing the most prominent design elements on the left end of the plate. While centered is obviously more symmetrical, it makes it difficult to create a "theme" because there isn't enough contiguous space. The Conserve Wildlife plate I currently have is a good case in point. The bear, the most prominent element, is on the left and I don't think it would work if the bear were centered. For one thing, I don't think we want the text of the plate number covering a focal element, and the text will certainly extend across the very center of the plate. I also agree with Marjorie about the pine lily; I was an initial proponent of including a pine lily, but the orchids fit better with the idea of an FNPS camo theme than the colors of the lily. And as beautiful as the ghost orchid is, the butterfly orchid will be more recognizable to more people; some non--native plant people might even think the ghost orchid is invented. Last thought, I also concur with Sue's suggestion about trying to incorporate some pine needles - even dried brown ones if that works - and/or oak leaves to more fully accentuate the "camo", while still allowing identifiable plants to be distinguish by we insiders. That is important to the final product!